Are Andrew and Mandelson Beyond the Fan?

How close is the Palace to being sucked into the Epstein reputational black hole - again?

In this episode David Yelland and Simon Lewis discuss the latest revelations from the Epstein files about Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor. Can a reputation ever be so utterly ‘nuked’ that there is no coming back and anyone close gets sucked in? What is the Royal Family's PR calculus to avoid the gravity pull of the Epstein PR black hole?

On the extended edition on BBC Sounds, David and Simon look at another man in a PR black hole, Lord Mandelson. Is it really the end of the road for the king of spin, or can the ultimate political survivor find a way out?

Also, the Sunday Times Tax List and why being one of the UK’s biggest tax payers is good PR.

Producer: Duncan Middleton

Editor: Sarah Teasdale

Executive Producer: Eve Streeter

Music by Eclectic Sounds

A Raconteur Studios production for BBC Radio 4